Comments on: Same Incorrect Thoughts, Different Day

By: Allan MacInnis

Allan MacInnis — Sun, 16 May 2010 02:00:36 +0000

Heyo. So those of you interested in NO WISHES NO PRAYERS absolutely need to get your mitts on Mongrel Zine #8, for reasons I write about here:

http://alienatedinvancouver.blogspot.com/2010/05/attention-subhumans-fans-rare-demo-in.html

In brief, the band has given Mongrel a song for their CDr – a rough-but-tough early version of “Slap In The Face,” which absolutely needs to be heard by all you Subhumans completists out there.

All eight of you.

By: Mr. Beer N. Hockey

Mr. Beer N. Hockey — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 04:01:51 +0000

Still hoping for another Canada Day show from you, especially since you did not record “Two Bit Whore.” Hell, you could re-name it “Two Bit Gord” in honour of our thieving premier.

By: Ken

Ken — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:51:19 +0000

Just got the re-record yesterday. It’s great, I especially love what you guys did with “New Order” (which was one of my favorites off the original).

Don’t get me wrong, my daughter can have my copy of the original when she pries it out of my cold, dead hands (and puts it on ebay to buy a house, probably) but this CD is going to be on pretty constant rotation.

By: Dan Swank

Dan Swank — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:31:29 +0000

A year or two ago, at a show in Portland, Oregon, I cornered Nardwuar the Human Serviette because I wanted to know what he knew about THEE Subhumans (The Evaporators’ latest album had an homage to Incorrect Thoughts as a cover). I badgered him about what the members were like, what they were up to these (those?) days and why he didn’t post a shitload of interviews on his website, transcribed. (Answer: “Brian and Gerry and the rest of ‘em are really nice, and they’re one of the greatest bands ever, but I don’t have the space to post every interview I do…”)

He should make space.

My copy of Incorrect Thoughts was burned from a CD Presents cassette version to a mini-disc and finally to a CD. The sound quality has suffered a bit, but I still listen to it all the time. I’m lucky enough to own all of the rest of the singles/records/CDs, but I’ve never been able to score a copy of the original Incorrect Thoughts record (actually, I don’t have the Oh, Canaduh single either).

Anyway, I cannot wait to hear the new versions.

Fuck it, I’m taking the bus out to Amoeba Records in San Francisco right now to pick one up.

Nomeansno is incredible (the Northwest has a lock on quality music — see Poison Idea, Sado-Nation, Dayglo Abortions, The Wipers, and of course, DOA), but I LOVE the Subhumans. They just might be the greatest band the world ever saw. Certainly Canaduh’s finest.

I wish and pray they come down to the Bay Area.

By: Lloyd

Lloyd — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:53:39 +0000

The CD Presents version of Incorrect Thoughts on iTunes includes a digital booklet with a bunch of liner notes about the band and the record, and even mentions thier reunion and ‘Dark Age Parade’. It almost seems like an official release. The scummy thing is that they put it out a month before “Same Thoughts” and are only selling it for $5.99. What I don’t get is that even though CD Presents owns the masters, the band still owns the songs…how are they able to get away without paying royalties?

By: Allan MacInnis

Allan MacInnis — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 06:06:16 +0000

The ugly cover is viewable here (if this doesn’t work, just do a Google Images search for “Subhumans Incorrect Thoughts” and it will turn up; it’s orange and has “CD Presents” at the bottom).

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4486/dsc06690x.jpg

They had a cartoonist, credited as Battle Of The Eyes, basically do a cartoon version of the original photo – a rather lamely unoriginal and pointless approach, since a scribbly doodle of people on a bus doesn’t mean much, unless you know the original cover; though to be fair, the back cover has original cartoony “interpretations” of each song, and is not quite as lame. There’s a little dancing gerkhin with arms illustrating “Slave To My Dick,” for instance – tho’ certain song titles are rendered incorrectly, ie, “War in My Head”). They credit mixing and mastering to Gary Hobish at CD Studios, San Francisco. There’s no mention of the previous release of the album, no mention of the band members, no mention of Vancouver, Friends Records, no mention of the songwriters on the album label, and no lyric sheet, at least with my copy (bought used off eBay). The track listing is also scrambled from the Friends version:

Side 1:
The Scheme
New Order
Behind My Smile
Out Of Line
Big Picture
Dead At Birth
Urban Guerrillas
War In The Head

Side 2:
Firing Squad
Slave To My Dick
Death To the Sickoids
Greaser Boy
Model Of Stupidity
We’re Alive
Refugee
Let’s Go Down To Hollywood…

There’s not much else to say about it. I wanted a copy since I was writing a story about the re-issue and wanted to be able to examine it, but having done so, i have to say, there’s really no point in wanting to own this – it’s an inferior version, made without much love or respect. Not much point in picking it up when the band have a beautifully made, band-approved version out there (which I notice is in stores TODAY, by the way – at least in Vancouver).

By: Bill Morgan

Bill Morgan — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:24:29 +0000

I just bought the new/old album “Same Thoughts,Different Day”.Thanks for going to the trouble of making this record,releasing the singles compilation “Death Was Too Kind”,and the album of newer songs “New Dark Age Parade”.All three are brilliant documents of Canada’s place in music history.Now how about a North American tour?

By: Jim

Jim — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:39:21 +0000

That CD Presents guy is now selling Incorrect Thoughts on emusic and iTunes…think you guys might finally get some royalties? Some how I doubt it

http://www.emusic.com/album/The-Subhumans-Incorrect-Thoughts-MP3-Download/11791137.html

By: IM

IM — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 04:26:35 +0000

Awesome! I’m embarrassed to admit but I thought for a long time that Behind The Smile was a D.O.A. original!

Also is there a photo of this ugly record cover, I’ve heard of it a few times and I’ve only ever seen the “Subhumans on the bus/train” one.

By: Allan MacInnis

Allan MacInnis — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 05:39:38 +0000

Oh, but I should also add – much as I have my own babyduck fondness for the original Incorrect Thoughts, the new album sounds fucking incredible. I’ve sat down and toggled back and forth between the original LP and the new CD (which I snagged a press copy of), and the new versions are utterly great. The background vocals add a LOT, there are lots of nicely added (and sometimes quite subtle) details by Mike on guitar, and there’s a much, much better use of acoustic space; on a 5.1 system, something like 75% of Incorrect Thoughts sounds like it’s comin’ through the centre channel, whereas Same Thoughts, Different Day fills the room. Incorrect Thoughts is a great collection of songs, but Same Thoughts, Different Day, is a great RECORDING of them, and deserves to be the definitive presentation of the album; even those few songs that I never much cared for on the original (“Let’s Go Down To Hollywood,” say) suddenly make sense. Oh, and of the added tracks, Dimwit’s “Escalator To Hell,” Mike’s “Behind The Smile,” and ESPECIALLY Gerry’s “21st Century” are shoulda-been-classics. (It did take me a couple of listens to get used to how Jon’s drums sound, mind you – but I did!).